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Just bracket any moral concerns you may have about torturing other people or agreeing that somebody else should be tortured.
先不去想折磨别人,或同意别人被折磨所产生的道德问题。
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If I don't want this thing over here to be tortured, that must be because I think it's me.
如果我不希望这边的这块东西被折磨，那一定是因为我觉得那是我。
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In 1718, he ordered a man kept alive after being horribly tortured, so he could be tortured some more and suffer as long as humanly possible.
718年 他下令救活一名遭受酷刑的男子,却是为了尽可能长时间地折磨他
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Some few people who had sinned terribly and earned the wrath of the gods would, indeed, be tortured in some special and typically Greek, interesting way. You remember Tantalus.
一些罪孽深重,触怒神灵的人,的确会受到一些希腊式的特殊刑罚,这很有意思,你们记得坦塔罗斯
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Or to put the point more properly, ? which one do you want to not to be tortured?
或者说的更明白一点，你们希望保护哪个？
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I'm going to ask you which one do you want ? to be tortured?
我打算问你们,你们希望哪个人物遭受折磨？
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I'm still going to be tortured and now we've added insult to injury.
我还是要被折磨，现在还雪上加霜。
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Some of you are probably good moral individuals and you do not want anybody to be tortured.
你们中有些人可能心地善良,不想让任何人遭到受折磨。
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And we're asking,Which one do you want to be tortured?
然后我们问，你希望哪一个被折磨？
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And ask yourself,Which one do I want to be tortured?
问问自己，我希望哪一个被折磨？
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Or which one do I want to not be tortured?
或是我不希望哪一个被折磨？
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When we tell the stories which you won't get yourselves to know next time, when we tell the stories next time, ?" and to say "OK, who you wanna to be tortured?"
等我们下次谈到,你所不了解的故事时，等下次我们谈论其他故事时，我会问，“你们希望我折磨哪个人“
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So I want this one to be tortured.
所以我希望这个人被折磨。
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it's,Let that one be tortured.
你会说，折磨那一个吧。
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Because I'm going to assume, I'm gonna take it that it's important to you, that you not be tortured. So by seeing who you want to keep safe, this will help you see which one you think is you.
因为我想,找出你们觉得对你们而言重要的,人物，你们想保护的人物,这样就能帮助你们,找到自己所支持的理论。
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