So if we can get better at giving people triggers of when to leave early, which we will work very hard on doing, then people evacuating themselves is the safest thing to do as long as it's early enough."

VOA: standard.2009.06.24

"The present situation is where religious extremists - whether they be the Taliban or whether they be one of the very many other jihaidst groups that were early on nurtured by the Pakistan army - they are pretty much beyond control now,".

VOA: standard.2009.05.05