Then he read about a famous French magician named Jean Eugne Robert-Houdin.

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The person to ask is a magician, somebody whose profession it is to fool people and make it look like they can do things with magic.

你要问的是魔术师,他们的职业就是愚弄别人,让人相信他们有魔法

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So, for example, there's a magician-- The question is not, could I explain to you how the seance manages to do the amazing things that it does?

比如说,有一个魔术师,问题不在于,我能否给你解释通灵任何,做到这些惊人事情的

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A young college student asked to meet the great magician.

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There's a magician, I think his name is The Amazing Randi, who has a sort of standing offer; he says, "You show me what happened in the seance or in communication with the dead or what have you, and I'll show you how to do it.

有这样一个魔术师,好像他叫 "令人惊奇"的兰迪,他有一个长期的悬赏,他说,你展示给我看通灵,或如何同死人交流,我就告诉你这是怎么做到的

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