"Both substances are scarce," Mr. Hirshman says, "and both are in demand."

“这两种物质是稀缺的，”先生赫什曼说，“无论在需求是。”

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"You have to look at trade-offs, what is it going to take to get (to retirement)," says Hirshman. "Don't consider it deprivation today.

“你要辩证的看待问题，看看现在要付出什么，（退休）后得到什么”Hirshman说，“不要只想着现在的利益被剥夺了。

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"You have to look at trade-offs, what is it going to take to get (to retirement)," says Hirshman. "Don't consider it deprivation today.

“你要辩证的看待问题，看看现在要付出什么，（退休）后得到什么”Hirshman说，“不要只想着现在的利益被剥夺了。

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