What they have in common is a North East footballer, turned agent, who in their eyes went from hero to zero.
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Byrne was in danger of going from hero to zero after his second-half sin-bin but the 14-man Ospreys defence kept the Blues at bay.
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Which is why the only economic argument that matters is how close the UK is to tumbling from fiscal hero to zero - how close we are to becoming Italy.
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In a chaotic final couple of laps, Heidfeld jumped from eighth to third place on the track with what he called a "hero or zero decision" to come in for wet-weather tyres with two laps to go.
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