Sitting with a glass of iced-tea in the spacious home of Gary Whitlock - whose family all worship at Northland Church - hetalkedabout how he had worked tirelessly to get out the vote for George W Bush.
As well as discussing his role in Afghanistan, hetalkedabout various other issues, including that he had "let my family down" when he was pictured naked in a Las Vegas hotel room last year.
Hetalkedabout how his mother had scrapped with insurance companies on her death bed, how the family had been on food stamps, and how his grandmother scrimped so that the family could afford to give him a first-class education.