"I don't miss the city the way I thought I'd miss the city, " Ms. Essman confided.
"In the 30 years we've been friends, we've never had a fight, " Ms. Essman went on.
Karen Essman, 61, uses Facebook but said she has trouble convincing her peers to join social-networking sites.
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These days, Ms. Essman lives upstate, Ms. Behar on the Upper West Side.
Ms. Essman married her husband, Jim Harder, a commercial real-estate broker, in 2008.
"They basically know we're going to do all the talking, " Ms. Essman said.
"Joy says I have to let you talk, " Ms. Essman told her husband with Ms. Behar still on the line.
And then there's the love between comedians Susie Essman and Joy Behar.
The friends told the story of how Ms. Behar phoned Ms. Essman after a party and told her she had to let her husband talk more.
"The good comedians were supportive of us, " Ms. Essman remembers.
"We both still suffer from stage fright, " Ms. Essman confessed.
"We mistakenly thought each other was funny, " Ms. Essman said.
"She'll call me before a gig, " or from the gig itself, said Ms. Behar, who isn't doing as much stand-up these days because of her other commitments, of Ms. Essman.
The last time was at a 30th anniversary celebration for the Greater Talent Network, a speaker's bureau where Ms. Essman, 57, told me that she often speaks before Jewish women's groups.
The couple that would be Ms. Behar and Ms. Essman met in the early '80s when they were among the few, brave women playing clubs such as Comedy U, at 13th and University, and Catch a Rising Star.
It's not a show per se, even though the audience might leave disappointed if Ms. Essman, perhaps best know for her role as Susie Greene, Larry David's foul-mouthed foil on "Curb Your Enthusiasm, " doesn't let rip an expletive or two.
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